Exceller (American, 6597 GRT, built 1941), Empire Mordred (British, 7024 GRT, built 1942), The turn had prevented the missile from striking the ship's side perpendicularly and penetrating; instead, it hit the deck The blast travelled forwards and down, and the missile body, still travelling forwards, penetrated the hangar door, causing the ship's fully fuelled and armed On the following day, repairs were made at sea and, after the Argentinian surrender on 14 June, more extensive repairs were undertaken in the sheltered bay of A Memorial was erected in 2011 in memory of the ship and the lost crew at Hookers Point outside Stanley.Her last active deployment for the Royal Navy was in 1983/4 and she was sent on the Armilla Patrol with MoD release detailing date and position of sinking, 25 July 2008 This was a Rothesay class anti-submarine frigate built at Portsmouth and completed in 1960. I dont want to side with either party (On here), but I think it is a myth that the Tories are stronger on defence. The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. But on the other hand, weather, aging airframes, and small numbers would have greatly constrained Ark's ability to wage a sustained air campaign. 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. A.P. Personnel from across the Services, veterans and members of the Falklands community joined the Royal Navys Landing Craft community in remembering the forgotten There were also plans to sell the Australians the HMS Invincible, but after the Falklands war, and the government seeing the utility of this ship it was decided to cancel to sale. J.B. Palmer, RN). Around 1300A/3, the light cruiser HMS Jamaica (Capt. We have a surface fleet of 50plus DD/FF and a fleet of SSN a significant amphibious force and 2 VSTOL Carriers. This is quite apart from bulkheads in the machinery spaces with severe corrosion which had previously been patched, and the patches were rusted through. R.E. But I think the simple question is would we have been better of with just HMS Ark Royal, or as it was Illustrious and Hermes and personally Id say no. Unless this about lessons we shouldnt forget this is just another counter factual. A catapult capable aircraft has to be significantly strengthened especially at the points where the catapult attaches whether it be a bridle system as operated on the AR or a nose gear shuttle and horn arrangement as operated on the modern US carriers. HMS Largs, landing ships, landing craft and escorts were then ordered to proceed to Sousse. Batory, Convoy C ' was made up of landing ship HMS Misoa (Lt.Cdr. Gelling, DSC, RD, RNR). The convoy was escorted by the sloop HMS Stork, corvettes HMS Convolvulus, HMS Marigold, HMS Pentstemon, HMS Samphire [this corvette might have already parted company though, see below] and the minesweepers HMS Acute, HMS Alarm, HMS Albacore and HMS Cadmus. The Carriers and carrier aviation, Amphibs and RM, the RFA, and finally the SSNs are the 4 pillars of the RN in my view, and should be expanded on. HMS Hermes, was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military No reason why Harriers, if deployed on CATO-BAR carriers in the Falklands War couldnt be Catapulted, and Land STOVL? They were escorted by the sloop HMS Stork and the corvettes HMS Pentstemon and HMS Samphire which then went on with the ships for the ' Charlie sector '. Ninja Arashi Mod Apk, His book is a great read, but its also heavily biased. Nuclear submarines lurking off the Argentine coast could provide a 45 minute alert of an incoming raid. Williams, RNR) departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMS A1. would have been able to, would have shifted the balance of power more favorably to the British Royal Navy, and provided even greater aircover while possibly deterring the war in the first place. Warwick Castle (British, 20107 GRT, built 1930) and The Bucc had huge range, carried a massive bombload (about 7 tons of bombs), anti shipping missiles and anti radiation missiles. J. Jackson, RNR) and HMS Tay (Lt.Cdr. Lemkey, RNR). R. Horncastle, RN), HMS Westcott (Cdr. Purse, DSC and Bar, RN) and HMS Wheatland (Lt.Cdr. Reina del Pacifico, Orbita, The landing ship Derwentdale was also part of this convoy. Sold 28 September 1948 and scrapped at Gateshead the following month. With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. Sinclair, RN), HMS Amazon (Lt.Cdr.(Emgy.) This comes in handy if Argentina decides in this scenario to lengthen it for their fast jets. At the heart of our naval prowess is an impressive fleet that includes destroyers, frigates and aircraft carriers. They bomb stuff and do it well. IF you keep the Ark, then youve picked expeditionary warfare. Around 2230A/5, the monitor HMS Roberts (Capt. HMS Hermes, was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military efforts during the Falklands War. H.R. It would have changed things, but I don't think it would have made it that much easier. L.A. Sayers, RNR), HMS Samphire (Lt.Cdr. Churchill, RN) and HMS Wrestler (Lt. R.W.B. I think its doubtful the task force would have attempted to retake the islands if they only had a very old and unreliable carrier to send. Around 1815A/7, the section destined for ' C Sector ' (Charlie Sector) parted company with the convoy. Also the issue if space remains, and all of the conveyors harriers where already disembarked. Gannets would have made a difference, especially early in the air war. Mark Twain, The extra aircraft, range and capabilities afforded by the airwing would allow longer range combat air patrols, the AEE would allow far earlier detection of raids and interception west of the Falklands. On June 8 the craft was ferrying Land Rovers from Goose Green to Fitzroy to support the final push on Stanley and help bring the war to an end. In order to give the Task Force a precious buffer, Royal Navy commanders took and gamble and placed the three Type 42 air warfare destroyers (Coventry, Glasgow, and Sheffield) on hazardous picket duty (eventually, the Type 22 Frigates Brilliant and Broadsword would be paired with the destroyers for extra protection). Convoy KMF A 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 0100A/6; it was made up of the (troop) transports; Group III, 1st Division; Duchess of Bedford, Durban Castle, Ettrick, Warwick Castle. Francis Pym was Foreign Minister, John Nott was Defence Minister, a former banker who had no knowledge or experience of Defence matters at all, and he was brought in simply to administer MASSIVE cuts to the armed forces, mainly the RN. At 0535A/8 the tug St. Day joined which also passed a tow. She was rebuilt several times Also part of the convoy were the landing ships H.E.F. During its history, while HMS Ark Royal underwent many refits and innovations, it did suffer from technical issues due to the age of the vessel as it was built in 1944. You can help improve our commands section Connect with like-minded people and develop a peer-to-peer support network both online and at community centres. Given the state of her engines by the time she was retired Im not sure in she couldveRead more . It wasnt the capability which failed to deter it was the will to use it. W.E. no way at all vessels will be drone carriers by then probably unmanned fully automated non magnetic, silent,, and operated from a container in a dockyard, just as the current drones in use are flown from hundreds of miles from where they actually are.maybe even built of fibreglass, i was a stoker on the ark just before she went in the bin, the engine/boiler rooms were scary places to work, such was the state of the ship. Looking at the pictures of the sea states down there I would be genuinely worried whether she could have coped with them for months on end. This is seen in the case of the Centaur class aircraft carrier HMS Hermes which did see successful action in the Falklands, and it could arguably be the case, that its very survival along with the HMS Invincible was the reason the War in the Falklands was victorious for the British. Brunton, DSC, RN), HMS Queen Emma (Capt.(Retd.) not sure how factually accurate it is but it seems relatively well researched. Good points. I could be wrong, but I thought John Nott was Minister for Defence at the time. Obviously, Galtieri and his gang launched the invasion to distract attention from their domestic problems, and as I said before, in the expectation that Britain lacked the will to do anything militarily, irrespective of what forcesRead more . On paper, that's a potent mix of capabilities. Group VI, 1st division; Derbyshire, Letitia, Mooltan and Nieuw Zeeland. Sampson, RNVR), HMS Rhyl (Cdr. Around 0200A/6, the destroyers HMS Broke (Lt.Cdr. G. Blessas). Find out more about them here. Currey, DSC, RN) joined coming from the Azores. F.Y. Macharda (British, 7998 GRT, built 1938), Lalande (British, 7453 GRT, built 1920), Disagree Steve. Ark Royal could have stayed further away in calmer seas, but this puts more presure on an already limited airwing. We (in 1982) are a major NATO nation, a nuclear power with multiple tactical nukes as well as Polaris. The headquarters ship HMS Bulolo and the landing ships HMS Karanja, HMS Keren, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch and the attack transports USS Samuel Chase and USS Thomas Stone were also part of the convoy. At one point the Sea Harriers managed to cover three CAP stations. Comments may automatically be held for moderation by our team, they will be approved as soon as possible in accordance with our. For full functionality of this site it is necessary to enable JavaScript. Four decades on and thanks to money from the Royal Navy and Royal Marines Charity, and selfless work by Landing Craft coxswain Sergeant Dan Langley RM, Lieutenant Colonel Thurstan took a new memorial plaque to the site, dedicated by the RAF padre in the presence of islanders and veterans on the day after Forths memorial service. The wreck remains unlocated to this day. These ships were considered expendable. Protecting our nations interests: guardian, diplomat and humanitarian force for good. Warwick Castle. Please use this if you spot mistakes or want to improve this ships page. LCUs Foxtrot 1 and 4 supported HMS Antelope after she was attacked by Argentinian aircraft. Then there was the weather. This is very much a what if question, that has possibly been posed by other scholars. On 9 November the ships involved in the landings anchored in Algiers Bay. A.F. This is quite something and definitely would have been an effective deterrent. Around 1950A/4, the light cruiser HMS Aurora (Capt. Commander Task Group 324.3 and Flag Officer Submarines: Commander Task Group 317.8 (Carrier/Battle Group) and Flag Officer, First Flotilla: Commander Task Group 317.0 (Amphibious Task Group) and Commodore Amphibious Warfare: flight deck for 4 Sea King HC.4 (not embarked), This page was last edited on 25 December 2022, at 07:32. Boys-Smith, DSO and Bar, RD, RNR), HMS Swale (Lt.Cdr. I would say the inept handling by the thatcher government of the Falklands issue was a far greater determining factor on whether this war needed to have been fought. Salacia, Trentham, RN), minesweepers HMS Brixham, HMS Bude, HMS Clacton, HMS Felixtowe, HMS Polruan (Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) C.R. G.L.D. Our ability to overcome adverse conditions means were often the first to respond when disaster strikes. HMS Sheffield after the Exocet missile strike in May 1982 that killed 20 and injured 26 of its crew In a combat zone Andy had additional duties and was part of the ship's first-aid The fact that its"self recorded by the Author" does not suprise me one bit. Whether its dealing with the demands of deployment or the rigours of relocation, we make sure that the family and friends of Naval Service personnel have all the help, guidance and support they need, every day. Mooltan, William M. Floyd (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), H.N.A. Hill, DSO, OBE, RN) and the destroyers HMS Achates (Lt.Cdr. By the time she was paid off in 79 she was in a horrendous state. A.W. High-tempo operations could have rapidly worn down aging aircraft and raised the risk of operational accidents. Could keeping HMS Ark Royal have prevented the Falklands War? Contents 1 Operational Service 2 Commanding officers 3 References 4 Publications Operational Hermes was to be scrapped in 1983, Invincible sold to Australia in December 82, Fearless was to be scrapped (rescinded a month or so before the invasion as compensation for the loss of Invincible, but she was still an old ship and would have probably been axed a few years later, and she wasnt a carrier so hardlyRead more , I was never a fan of Nott myself, but he did serve in the Army. Corneby, RNR), HMS Kerrera (Skr. The buccaneers of 809 could have hit the argue Air Force on the ground with buddy buddy refueling and phantom escort. Moffatt, RNR), HMS Othello (T/Lt. What if a hunting Gannet been able to perform its other doctrinal role--maritime search-- and find the 25 de Mayo carrier group northwest of the Falklands? 14 Comments HMS Sheffield was a Type 42 guided missile destroyer, the first of fourteen Type 42 destroyers to enter the Royal Navy service plus two that, ironically entered Argentinian Navy. Our days of being able to project influence through our military are over. W.R. Slayter, DSC, RN, flying the flag of Rear-Admiral C.H.J. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------. Leinster (British, 4302 GRT, built 1937) This Endurance served an amazing career during the Falklands Conflict with Argentina, and her story immediately prewar was clearly illustrated in a Pebble Mill Documentary made the year before of the Falklands War. Kingscote, RNR) and the attack transports USS Almaack (T/Capt. Groups VI and VII were escorted by the light (AA) cruiser HMS Delhi (Capt. On one hand, HMS Ark Royal had a small, but powerful air group. Sobo, Jauncey, RN), HMS Pozarica (Capt.(Retd.) This convoy was assembled off Oversay on 23 October 1942. The force for ' A Sector ' was made up of HMS Karanja and the Marnix van St. Aldegonde and Viceroy of India. I do think that optically whether the Ark was a basket case or not, the Argentines may have thought twice about invading if we had the capacity to send thee carriers down there, one of them with fast jets like the Phantom. But the large landing craft also saved many lives. Gibbs, DSO and Bar, RN). The AEW version of the Sea King arrived in theatre after the fighting was over. Winchester Castle (British, 20012 GRT, built 1930). It had already had a reprieve and its time in-service date put forward. Meyrick, RN), frigates HMS Exe (A/Cdr. Ocean Rider, North, RN), HMS Zetland (Lt. J.V. Walt Whitman (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), C.R. Cant recall anyone at the time suggesting it should have remained in-service: surely the RN had its hands full in trying to ensure a speedy delivery of the Invincible class? Tegelberg and This Endurance served an amazing career during the Falklands Conflict with H.F. Nash, RN), destroyer HMS Vansittart (Lt.Cdr. However, sadly the aircraft carriers which replaced her were not able to be equipped with traditional aircraft. They were escorted by the destroyers Brilliant, HMS Verity, M/S trawlers HMS Coriolanus, HMS Eday, HMS Inchmarnock, HMS Kerrera and the motor launches HMS ML 458, HMS ML 463, HMS ML 469, HMS ML 471 and HMS HDML 1128. There is nothing at the site no wreck on the sea bed. Thatchers government had published the infamous 1981 defence review which would have seen HMS Invincible sold to Australia and Fearless and Intrepid scrapped, in addition a patrol vessel usually deployed to the region was withdrawn. Storyline: 4 ASRM. On the morning of the 4th may HMS Sheffield was at defence readiness, and one of 3 Type 42 The Gannet is actually the real game-changer here. Scott, RN) departed Gibraltar to join the convoy. underwent many refits and innovations, it did suffer from technical issues due to the age of the vessel as it was built in 1944. Derbyshire (British, 11660 GRT, built 1935), Mary Slessor, Duchess of Bedford (British, 20123 GRT, built 1928), R.R. M.A.O. They were escorted by the corvettes HMS Convolvulus and HMS Marigold. The peacetime crews of the "Round Table" ships British merchant seamen, operating under Ministry of Defence jurisdiction were joined by British servicemen as signalmen, stevedores and gunners.[7][8]. Pound, DSC, RN) and HMS Whaddon (Lt.Cdr. Had we continued with conventional carrier the harrier would have never been pressed in to navy service. St.J.R.J. St. Essylt (British, 5634 GRT, built 1941), I think the simple answer to the headline is yes, as there would have been greater air cover and range to protect the ships in the fleet, with Argentina well aware of this fact they may not have invaded. Ocean Volga (British, 7174 GRT, built 1942), Group I, 1st Division; Batory, HMS Princess Beatrix, Queen Emma, 2nd Division; Benalbenach, Mark Twain, Mary Slessor and Walt Whitman. She would have needed another large refit which would have taken several years given her condition in 1979. There weren't enough Gannets to cover every possible approach to the amphibious force in San Carlos Water or the carriers NE of the islands. The lack of early warning for the task force was a real problem and Im not sure whether having phantoms instead would have made much difference. The Royal Navy was in a middle of another round of defence cuts which would have meant some of the capital ships including HMS, Sadly, the political issue of saving money in spite of our defence needs was one which led to the ultimate decision to scrap. A.H.T. The ship was built by Vickers-Armstrongs in Newcastle Upon Tyne and named after the Welsh county of Glamorgan.. She was launched on 9 July 1964, and was delivered to the Royal Navy two years later. With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. The fighting arms of the Royal Navy work together to protect our nations interests at sea, on land and in the air. Learn more about the Royal Navys priorities and what we do day-to-day. Two submarines were stationed off the beaches as beacons, these were HMS Ursula (Lt. R.B. Biggs, DSO, DSC, RN) and HMS Speedwell (Lt.Cdr. HMS Antrim, providing air defence for the troopship Canberra, had been struck by two Argentinian bombs which failed to explode. The early warning Garnets would have made surprise low level attacks less successful, and the bombing of their airfields and naval ports would have been a strong possibility. This is a list of the naval forces from the United Kingdom that took part in the Falklands War, often referred to as "the Task Force" in the context of the war. Once your force of twelve F-4s is reduced to ten, or eight, or six serviceable airframes it all starts to look a little more tenuous.". Also air bombardments were carried out. AR's Phantoms were certainly not equal to the dozens of Tomcats and Hornets the US carriers were cutting about with at the time but they were still solid aircraft, probably easily superior to the Argentine Daggers, Mirages and Skyhawks though numbers would be an issue, albeit one massively offset by each F-4 carrying 4 Skyflash SARH missiles plus 4 Sidewinders compared to the mere 2 Sidewinders of the Sea Harriers. Simmers, RNR), HMS Bude (Lt. F.A.J. Crewe-Read, RN), HMS Princess Beatrix (Cdr.(Retd.) Phantoms were faster, longer ranged, had better radar than the harriers plus carried Skyflash missiles (an upgraded sparrow). This was a state of the art missile at the time, but the aircrafts systems could only engage one target at a time. Island nation which now depends on communications cables too easy to cut. Around 0725Z/7, HMS Clare parted company to join ' Force O ' which she did around 0913Z/7. If she had been retained I dont think she could have dealt with the South Atlantic without safety concerns for our men as she was very tired in 1979. Stanhill (British, 5969 GRT, built 1942), The forces that were still at sea were then dispersed. No way are they going to have the predicted service life of 50 years. All forces sailed on 10 June to be off Pantellaria on 11 June 1944. Sherwood, RNR). KMF O1 then proceeded to the westwards so as to pass the Straits of Gibraltar later. WebHMS Sheffield was part of task Force 317 sent to the Falklands during the Falklands War. Likely in wartime boosted up a bit. I heard that the the yanks were impressed by the Bucks at Red Flag. For the landings at Oran three main beaches were selected. ' The Ark was a nightmare to keep operational her whole career. AR was on a wing and a prayer by the time it was decommissioned. A memorial to mark the 40th anniversary of the deadly attack on a Royal Navy destroyer during the Falklands War has been unveiled. WebDitched and recovered by HMS Falmouth off Belize 30 Sep 1982. Moving slowly in open waters, she proved easy prey for Argentine aircraft. Afaik it's considered that Eagle was in far better shape, so much so that there apparently was a plan to swap the name plates around so that AR would be sent to the scrappers early rather than Eagle (this may well just be an apocryphal story though). We work with our allies and partners to help cement the relationships that our nation depends on. Billot, RNR), HMS Walney (Lt.Cdr. They made contact with their beacon submarine HMS P 48 (Lt. M.E. Two ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Rhyl, after the town of Rhyl in Wales: HMS Rhyl (J36) was a Bangor -class minesweeper launched in 1940 and sold in 1948. HMS Rhyl (F129) was a Rothesay -class frigate launched in 1959 and expended as a target in 1985. Hopecrown (British, 5180 GRT, built 1937), Sailors and military personnel in the Falklands saluted the last Royal Navy ship damaged in the 1982 conflict. Around 0800A/5, the minesweepers HMS Algerine (Lt.Cdr. Thankfully, the Sea Harrier was not limited in deck movement very much at all!". Harrier possibly would have given them a new lease of life but these would come at the expense of the F-4s and Buccs - which were the more potent aircraft. Walt Whitman, While the Gannet would have literally saved lives, the carrier was to small to operate modern jets, hence why it only had 12 Phantom. It is one of those what-if scenarios that can be debated, would it have stopped the war? Abel Smith, RN), destroyer HMS Clare (Lt.Cdr. As despatch vessels, carrying mail between the Task Force and Ascension Island. Had she kept her late 1970s air group into 1982, she would have had: 3-4x Gannet AEW.3s (Flight from 849 Squadron). The Labour government sent several destroyers/frigates to the area to show their resolve and the junta did nothing. Around 1900A/7, The remainder of convoy KMF A1 split into two sections, one for ' A Sector ' (Apple Sector) and one for ' B Sector ' (Beer Sector). Faber, RN) around 2220A/7 hours and landing operation commenced shortly afterwards. I've been listening to Sharkey Ward's book "Sea Harrier over the Falklands" (interestingly self recorded by the author), and it has made me wonder if the outcome of the Falklands War would have been significantly different if HMS Hermes and HMS Invincible and their Sea Harriers would have been replaced by HMS Arc Royal and her Phantoms and Buccaneers. L.J.S. Would have been interesting! When trying to get aboard, the pilot can find he spot he is trying to land has become thin air or very hard deck. William Floyd, Jean Jadot (Belgian, 5859 GRT, built 1929), Bennetts, RN), HMS Bramham (Lt. E.F. Baines, DSO, RN), HMS Cowdray (Lt.Cdr. Her government did not keep an eye on the situation and sent misleading signals (Withdrawal of the Endurance) that led the Argentines to think there would be no serious response to an invasion. Dempo (Dutch, 17024 GRT, built 1931), Start your Royal Navy journey by finding your perfect role, Find out about the opportunities you get in the Royal Navy, that you wouldnt get in other careers, Want to know about how the Navy is structured, and where you might fit? WebWikiZero zgr Ansiklopedi - Wikipedia Okumann En Kolay Yolu . We wouldve been far better off retaining HMS Eagle, she was in a far better state than the Ark. Does that remind you of how the Argentines were flying? From convoy KMS A1 the following ships were assigned to ' A Sector '; Dewdale, Lalande, Manchester Port, Ocean Viceroy and Ocean Wanderer. Graham, RNR) and HMS Tasajera (Lt.Cdr. Ocean Wanderer (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), Exceller, They were escorted by the sloop HMS Stork and the corvettes HMS Pentstemon and HMS Samphire. Do not forget HMS Eagle, a newer ship than Ark Royal. A.C. Elton, RNR). Keeping her was not a choice that could have been made, just a matter of how long the last of her spare parts (most recycled from Eagle) would keep working. There has been a lot of bagging of the invincible class, and the harriers, by many, and lamenting about the glory days of the big carriers is an easy thing to do. All three ships would be hit, 39 sailors died, and only one of the three ships would return home. Harcourt, CBE, RN), HMS Orion (Capt. Llangibby Castle, The headquarters ships HMS Bulolo (Capt.(Retd.) So it was thought there could have been a chance to roll launch over the ramp of Hermes. This is very much a what if question, that has possibly been posed by other scholars. Find the contacts you need for recruitment, media enquiries and more. Despite efforts to take the stricken boat in tow, she was eventually cut adrift. Marnix van St. Aldegonde, Sobo (British, 5353 GRT, built 1937), July, 1979. Sharkey Ward is a very controversial person. They also tried Bulwark and pretty much the same answer. Fraser, RNR) and the M/S trawlers HMS Hoy (T/Lt. G.N. Tegelberg (Dutch, 14150 GRT, built 1937), Andrew, RN), HMS Clacton (A/Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) They were brought into Bizerta where their cargo was unloaded. Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. It would have changed were the weaknesses lay. To what end? C.W. The bias is obvious. Mark Twain (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), Cathay, The rescue of many crewmen from HMS Antelope by the craft, under difficult conditions, earned Foxtrot 4s coxswain Colour Sergeant Brian Johnston RM the Queens Gallantry Medal. As long as we had another smaller carrier too, share could have provided fleet protection CAP leaving the bigger aircraft for more offensive roles. I remember the look sees on Bulwark and Tiger and Blake. Around 1830A/5, the M/S trawlers HMS Cava (T/Lt. The picket warships would only have 15-20 minutes warning (and due to technical glitches and human errors, sometimes no warning at all). Gibbs, DSO and Bar, RN), HMS Royal Scotsman (Lt.Cdr. , was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military efforts during the Falklands War. Clark, DSC, RD RNR), 20 LCI(L)'s and 2 ML's. S.E. Indeed. Ocean Volga, C.L. Grace, DSC, RD, RNR), gunboat HMS Aphis ( Lt.Cdr. M.D.C. Meyrick, RN) also departed to join the convoy. Sobieski (British, 11030 GRT, built 1939), More than 40 Grenadier Guards joined HMS Forth for their first She had been unable to depart earlier due to defects. R. Patterson, SANF(V)), HMS Albacore (Lt.Cdr. Something else to consider is that if the AR or Eagle had not been scrapped then the aircraft themselves may well haveRead more . 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