Not to my logic. Intangible personal. Settled law when it comes to estate taxation. Personal property comes in two forms. Tangible personal property (TPP) comprises property that can be moved or touched, and commonly includes items such as business equipment, furniture, and automobiles. Depreciable property is an asset that is eligible for depreciation treatment in accordance with IRS rules. Related Professionals. New asset classes arise. After working through the tax savings below, it becomes apparent that Mr. Franklins net cost is about 70 cents on the dollar. The mere fact that there are cases wherein people have used these coins to make asset acquisitions bear it out: That these coins are circulating. However, some firearms fall within a safe harbor such as possession or transportation of weapons in a non-functioning condition and used in curios, antiques or as ornaments. In fact, 43 states use an appraised TPP value when calculating state taxes on personal property, business property or both. See Treas. Assume that the trustee is able to sell the bullion a few days later. Collectibles are taxed as capital gains or losses similar to stocks and bonds but with one very important exception. Comparison to Non-Tangible Assets, What Is Bonus Depreciation? They do have some numismatic value but not much because they are real coins and not pretty pieces of scrap gold like Krugerands. Anyway, DAJ has the facts, and he has the ruling on his sidehe'll have to make the callalthough the ruling doesn't appear to be set in stone. From the RR: Obviously, if one side of a 1031 involves money, it would be cash consideration or boot. Appraisal Method. You can't extend the logic b/c the RR logic applies to the specific coins involved in the ruling. For purposes of this subsection, the term collectible shall not include. Argument can be made that they're "money" under the tax code, since case law brings up "circulating" as a critical distinction between "money" and "property other than money." Why? Property owners who lease or rent tangible personal property must also file this return for tax purposes. I'm afraid you will not find one, which leaves the issue unresolved. But I think everyone is laughing at you. Tangible personal property is always depreciated over either a five- or seven-year period using straight-line depreciation but is eligible for accelerated depreciation as well. . I can't say I don't care for them, I just don't find them to be relevant in the income tax areaalthough the income tax issue all started, pretty much, with an estate tax ruling (RR 78-360), wherein the circulation issue was first raised. 6411 Ivy Lane, Suite 200 Tangible personal property is a tax term describing personal property that can be physically relocated, such as furniture and office equipment. If that's all you've got you are going to lose. Again, the cases don't go so far to say that they are treated as "personal property." If your collection is really valuable, you might want to transfer it to a living trust, to avoid a probate proceeding upon your deathbut thats prettyunusual andonly appropriate if the value of those tangibleitems are high, such as with a Steinway piano, or vauable jewelery. 408(m). Tangible personal property means: articles of personal or household use or ornament, for example, furniture, furnishings, automobiles, boats, airplanes, and jewelry, as well as precious metals in any tangible form, for example, bullion or coins. The gold and silver coins clearly are tangible property, in that they can be felt or touched. (1) The following shall be exempt from taxation under the provisions of part 1 of this article: (a) Any right to the continuous possession or use for three years or less of any article of tangible personal property under a lease or contract, if the lessor has paid to the state of Colorado a sales or use tax on such tangible personal property upon its acquisition. This is an indirect way to own gold. What is not on the books is a single case of someone donating U.S. legal tender, newly minted, circulating gold coins to a charity. We have Congressional intent. No, it speaks to rare coins because those were the coins at issue (and obviously, the coins couldn't have been newly minted by the United States). Obviously, an author's opinion in an article isn't authoritative "guidance." If your city or county assesses personal property taxes, they may require that you submit a disclosure of your property. In law, tangible property is literally anything that can be touched, and includes both real property and personal property (or moveable property), and stands in distinction to intangible property. Did our house get taken out of the trust? And somehow you figure 170 is going to be different? Most charities don't say much more than "Thank you. Conversely, if the chandelier is to remain attached to the real property . If its determined to be cash, then the collection should be bequeathed through the Will, which you must sign along with two witnesses, and which must be notarized. They are still tangible personal property. So, more than likely, DAJ's coins are the ones described in 408(m). Note: You are using this website at your own risk, subject to our, http://www.aicpa.org/publications/taxadviser/2013/january/pages/clinic-story-07.aspx, http://www.taxalmanac.org/index.php/Discussion:Donation_of_Gold_Coins, Lacerte Professional Tax Preparation Software, Newsletter for Accounting & Tax Professionals. Things such as oil, gas, precious metals and standing timber are all part of the land. And the term is used in different ways in the numismatist world. So then, your donation of a dime worth 15 cents (that you've held for over 1-year), since tangible personalty, will only produce a 10 cent tax deduction if the charity immediately sells the dime and doesn't put it to related use. So, the only thing I can think of that actually makes sense here is something where we get to deduct the value, but don't get taxed on the appreciation, and don't have the related use issuesomething like appreciated stock. I hope the OP finds the debate helpful, however. I guess we could say since OP's coins *aren't* all that, then OP's coins are not tangible personalty, for Section 170 purposes, per that RR. This is contrasted with intangible personal property, which includes stocks, bonds, and intellectual property like copyrights and patents. If I'm right on the ITC, and I'm not saying I am, it's another example of guidance not contemplating a new asset class. They have value only because of their gold content. That way, you can update that list periodically, without the expense of having to update your Will. Valuing Tangible Assets. Someone gives it to me for services rendered. (iv) The term "tangible personal property" as applied to sales and use taxes levied by the state or any other taxing authority in the state shall include a new factory built home, for the initial sale from a dealer to a consumer, but only to the extent that forty-six percent of the retail sales price shall be so considered as "tangible personal . 5739.01(DDD) and O.A.C. South African Krugerrand coins are more akin to money than to coins that have value as collections items. It speaks to rare coins, because as you noted, but would rather forget, the ruling predates. If you guys are thinking, "Dennis seems to be focusing on the status quo and ignoring the fact that the U.S. has started minting gold coins again," you would be right. the gold watch goes to her daughter and the stamp collection goes to her son. Chris already brought this up, more or less, but I ask: What if Chris paid 15 cents for the aforementioned dime? Therefore, sales of such coins for delivery in Massachusetts are subject to the Massachusetts sales or use tax. It includes all personal property that isnt considered real property or intangible property such as patents, copyrights, bonds or stocks. Purchase gold bars, which can be as small as one ounce. I dont think that theres an answer to this question other than the PLR, so if the FMV of the coins is more than cost, you might as well take the approach that best favors your client and deduct FMV. Given the potential for error, its best to consult with an attorney. Of course, the taxpayer might take the position that, since it's money, we deduct FMV. LPP includes all or any part of any interest in or any right to the following properties: To determine the value of many LPP items, you can have them appraised by a . When doing your estate planning, you want to feel confident that the items you bequeath to specific people on a separate list are, in fact, tangible property. the deduction is not limited to face value)? McNamee Hosea And the law hasn't quite caught up to this new paradigm. Even though an ETF share is just paper (or more likely just bytes), it represents ownership of the metal itself and that's enough to make it a collectible for tax purposes. It includes all personal property that isn't considered real property or intangible property such as patents, copyrights, bonds or stocks. The Regan era coins are collectibles. If you want to see the fallacy of "more akin to appreciated stock" check out the treatment of a donation of units in a publicly traded ETF holding gold bullion. Some small boats require modest paperwork to transfer ownership. Among these three metals, gold and silver are preferred over platinum, which is quite volatile as an investment. As with the gift annuity, a charitably-minded Mr. Franklin who is interested in augmenting his cash flow might be attracted to a gift arrangement that allows him to dispose of a volatile yet highly appreciated asset, pay no immediate tax on his gain, receive income from all proceeds of selling his bullion, and make a generous gift to charity. Tangible personal property is generally defined as personal property that can be touched. But if the 1031 exchange of bullion into coins is taxable, wouldn't the favorable tax treatment, on the donation, be offset by the unfavorable gain recognition on the 1031? In addition, the position described above is inconsistent with the reality that when sold the gain in Krugerrands (and other gold coins), gold bullion, and shares in ETFs that invest in gold bullion is taxed as if they are tangible personal property. A related use would be, for example, a gift of gold coins that will be retained and displayed by a numismatic museum. And your proof of this is what? 23. Your gift is tax deductible to the extent allowed by law" and let it go at that. In my opinion, that's no proof at all. You know, an actual ruling - or case - involving U.S. legal tender gold coins given as a donation. You can certainly touch and feel the stock certificate. Security & Privacy | The money collected is generally used to support community safety, schools, infrastructure and other public projects. Consider working with a financial advisor as you develop a tax strategy. Still, its nice to see the ludicrous nature off my example woke you up. School Dist., 2008 WL 4441957 (5th Cir. Tangible personal property includes a wide variety of equipment, from small office fixtures to light trucks and buses. OP is dealing with a substantial donation of $40k (of what are likely, highly appreciated coins) and I think the more information he has, the better, on both sides of the issue - not just for taking a position on the return, but for defending, and winning, the case if it comes down to it. Then come the Regs. Trustee compensation should be specified. Therefore, the Will should make clear what the intent is concerning the distribution of the box and the items in the box. Gold, silver, platinum, palladium, and coins The following coins and metals are not included in the definition of "collectible" under IRC Section 408 (m): Certain gold, silver, or platinum coins described in 31 USC Section 5112. The only specific example of tangible personal property for charitable contribution purposes found in the regulations involves a gift of a future interest in a chandelier that is attached to a building. Cambridge, MA 02138 While publicly-traded securities have fared poorly over the last decade, the skyrocketing demand for gold in the face of a static supply has caused gold prices to rise dramatically. Most business owners will need to disclose the property they hold such as machinery, inventory, office furniture and more as well as the year it was purchased. Then we'll put the coins in an "account" and transfer the account to charity. I don't dispute that and never have. A sale of these items by the Personal Representative of the Estate is not usually a good option because the proper storage of these items cannot be guaranteed. Dennis must think Congress and the Treasury are both clairvoyant. gold, silver, or numismatic coins of any value; iii. Couldn't have anything to do with recognition of the fact that it's tangible personal property, could it? This is clear. Special valuation of a wine collection or alcohol by other spirits may require the use of a qualified appraiser. "Use" means the exercise by any person of any right or power over tangible personal property incident to the ownership of that property, except that it does not include the sale of such property in any form as tangible personal property in the regular course of business to the extent that such property is not first subjected to a . a $10 bill), they won't give you the value of the coin. The sales and use taxes are imposed with respect to sales of tangible personal property (G.L. Own shares in a Gold ETF. Some counties and cities require the filer to list all property on the tax form and to provide the fair market value and cost for each tangible property. "Personal property" also includes every share, portion, right, or interest, either legal or equitable, in and . A limited liability company or a limited partnership may also be established for the purpose of owning firearms. Different rules depending on the situation. If the courts would like to call these coins "property other than money," for purposes of 170, then great. [1]. Based on the foregoing, it is ruled that sales of gold coins, such as Krugerrands and Maple Leafs, the value of which depends upon their gold content, are sales of tangible personal property rather than exchanges of currency. They will then value your property, usually using a fair market value chart or table. 91-172), so its no help. Typical items include clothing, jewelry, art, musical instruments, writings, furnishings and other household goods. Property taxes in America are collected by local governments and are usually based on the value of a property. Tangibles can have considerable financial value . Consider property such as furniture, machinery, cell phones, computers, and collectibles which can be felt compared to intangibles such as patents, copyrights, and non-compete agreements that cannot be seen or touched. Sure, if it has the value and the language about no goods/services received. Intangible personal property is an item of individual value that cannot be touched or held. But, as I then admitted, even though taxpayer favorable - that carve out in 408(m) - I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Tangible property is personal property that can be physically handled, including but not limited to: Clothes; Jewelry; Furniture; and Vehicles. Exactly. You keep ignoring your own 408 citation. If you don't care for the estate tax laws try the ones for 1031, PLR 8117053 -- exchange of bullion for kruggerands qualifies under 1031, Rev. They will use the vehicles make and model, manufacture year, mileage and condition to determine what its potentially worth for taxation purposes. If Mr. Franklin were to sell his bullion instead and invest his after-tax proceeds in bonds yielding 4.0 percent, his annual after-tax income would be about $3,250, half the $6,500 cash flow from the gift annuity. Also, because the coins have both intrinsic and marketable value, in and of themselves, they cannot be considered intangible property, without more. 120, par. That you feel a deduction under 170 would be disallowed if it were made in foreign currency? The term intangible personal property refers to an item of value that cannot be touched or physically held. Tangible property is property which occupies physical space. Certain individuals are prohibited from being gun owners, for example, a person convicted of a crime or who has been adjudicated mentally defective, a fugitive, an illegal alien and anyone who has received a dishonorable discharge. And so far as the treatment of cash as tangible personal property note thatReg. Anyway, I get it. Regardless, sale through a reputable dealer will also need to be arranged. Of course, even if treated as money, IRS could say, "Fine, you get to deduct the face value." Makes no sense to me, but. Then, the appraiser will compare these values to . My writing gets easier, as you dig yourself into a deeper hole. Even a dime gets included in one's estate, based on it's value. 321, sec. Providing for the equal distribution of tangible personal property among a group of beneficiaries in equal shares may be problematic when one or more items hold significantly more value than the other items. For charitable purposes, if treated as "money," the deduction would be 10 cents. Be glad too. 31 USC 5103 specifically states that foreign coins are not considered legal tender in the U.S. Real property, or real estate, is tangible property that is immovable. In most places there is a sales tax added to the purchase of your 12 cent dime. Likewise, I wouldn't bet the farm on your "out of context" estate tax rulings, as I mentioned above. And Dennis might actually win this onebut that won't stop me from arguing. Your position then is that my example stands. The graph below shows that the average price of gold has risen in each of the last ten years. In the realization area, the personal property distinction wasn't really relevant, all that was relevant was whether or not a realization event had occurred. I report the value as income (realization). Yah I read that one (at least some of including the section on coins, anyway). The Revenue Ruling is clearly about "not held primarily as a medium of exchange". That was his point. Tangible personal property includes items such as vehicles, antiques, silver, artwork, collectibles, furniture, machinery, and equipment. I wish I had more time to give back to TA. What if Mr. Franklin were to fund a 5% charitable remainder unitrust with his bullion rather than give it outright or in exchange for a gift annuity. Preparing a Will enables you to direct how and to whom your estate will be distributed once youre gone. For those who are interested in life income, a gift annuity or charitable remainder unitrust are both reasonable alternatives to giving gold outright. Even though an ETF share is just paper (or more likely just bytes), it represents ownership of the metal itself and thats enough to make it a collectible for tax purposes. R.C. Personal property taxes may apply. But I don't think the Regs contemplated newly minted, U.S. gold coins. Definitions. South African Krugerrand gold coins are one of the best known types of gold bullion coins. A safe deposit box is not an item of tangible personal property, but the box could include items of tangible personal property. By the way, 1001(b) [amount realized], makes no distinction between intangible money and tangible money, Mot one that changes the definition of the coins as collectibles. We have a basis of 12 cents and a value of 15 cents. She is a Certified Specialist in Estate Planning, Trust, and Probate Law by the State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization. If you take the position it is in error, the obligation to show otherwise is on you. "However, the IRS apparently was ready to reverse its position in a later PLR that was withdrawn because the taxpayer died. Although you have to report any gain on the sale of personal-use property . Endangered Species, Ivory & Regulated Artifacts Federal laws and treaties restrict the ownership of and trade of products derived from endangered species. In fact, 43 states use an appraised TPP value when calculating state taxes on personal property, business . credit union 1 arena seating view; mickey blue eyes restaurant name. These personal and business taxes are assessed on certain tangible personal property items, depending on where you live and what you own. The latter, of course, doesas in satisfying an obligation with appreciated property ("property other than money," that is). Therefore, pursuant to the rationale of Rev. http://www.pgdc.com/pgdc/tangible-personal-property. More careful planning is required for the following types of assets that are governed by federal, state and local law: Firearms - The mere possession of certain unregistered weapons may be a federal and/or state crime. The term includes articles even if held for investment purposes and encompasses tangible property . What are tangible items in a will? For example, is a collection of gold Krugerrand coins considered cash ortangible personal property? If we treat as regular personalty, we have the related use problem. Until a ruling comes out, we just don't know, as I have also told you many times. This is in contrast with intangible property, which cannot be physically touched and is not corporeal in nature. I researched this some and could not find a definite answer. 82-96 -- exchange of bullion for Canadian Maple Leafs qualifies, But then, when you agreed with Fogel you didn't seem to notice that he dismissed all of your positions as irrelevant, "Because the Canadian Maple Leaf gold coins are bought and sold for their gold content, they are bullion type coins. A statement by someone who authored an article? Now, with all that said: I readily admit that, on the realization front, gold coins are treated as "property other than money." If we applied the realization rule (stock received for services rendered or stock sold), to the charitable donation situation, I'd have gain to report and an offsetting cash contribution. But then, when you agreed with Fogel you didn't seem to notice that he dismissed all of your positions as irrelevant. Dennis points are more than well taken. It smells bad, so the courts make up a test to deny the taxpayer. Is money considered tangible personal property? If you want to see the fallacy of "more akin to appreciated stock" check out the treatment of a donation of units in a publicly traded ETF holding gold bullion. If the donor lives nearby, he or she could deliver it in person. The examples below illustrate a gift of gold bullion, but apply equally to a gift of gold coins (taking the position that gold coins are tangible personal property) and shares of ETFs invested in gold bullion. They should know, eh? 170 (e) (1) (B) (i). Thought must also be given to whether the packing, shipping and transportation of items should be an expense of the estate or borne by the individual beneficiaries. Use this button to show and access all levels. 408(m)(3)(A)(i)(i) a gold coin described in paragraph (7), (8), (9) , or (10) of section 5112(a) of title 31, United States Code. Call it personal property, if you will, but the cases haven't really gone that far. Yes, case law didn't foresee the U.S. getting back into the Gold Minting business, and yes, the judges made this whole "circulating" thing up to begin withand, in the first case dealing with these newly minted coins (. Yes, I hear the laughter, Dennis. The IRS concluded that South African Krugerrand gold bullion coins were not personal property for purposes of IRC 170(a)(3). I simply do not believe that the a U.S. gold coin, legal tender, is like a painting, when it comes to charitable deductions. In these cases, it may be better to direct that these more valuable items be sold and the Will would direct how the proceeds of the sale are to be distributed. (L22, Ch. (Allowed only when the bullion is sold. In addition to paying sales tax on the things you buy, you may also be required to pay taxes on its perceived fair market value later on. The piano that you own, which you utilized to write the song, is considered tangible personal property. Bear in mind the law relating to treatment of coins as tangible personal property has application outside of 170. And, the stuff in 31 USC 5112 probably includes the coins described by the OP. Summary So, I went to the IRS publications to find the answer to this question - whatever it was, I forget now - and I promptly ran aground when I read Pub 526's *definition* of "tangible personal property": Thank you for that. Disclaimer -- Legal information is not legal advice. Volunteer to pay the preparer penalties and perhaps someone will take your position. So, I would say that I have a pretty open mind. Proper registration can require the new owner to obtain signature of chief law enforcement officers. Often, these items are of relatively little monetary value, but of great sentimental worth. It is obvious that the IRS has had some trouble with it too. Amortization vs. Depreciation: What's the Difference? You ever dealt with a donation of non-numismatic coins? But I get it. . ******************** ("Company") intends to sell gold coins for delivery to Massachusetts purchasers. They are not equivalent to money, meaning their face value. You want your 12 cent dime to be money, put it in an account and add 10 cents to your balance. And there do not seem to be any opinions supporting. The coins in the RR did take on collector's value and this is why the RR made mention of it. Posted in: Estate Administration, Estate Planning, Probate, Wills, document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) E.A. Maybe, but we're not talking about sales tax. Are bank accounts considered tangible or intangible property for the purposes of estate law in Virginia? And note, the RR *didn't* say, "the coins can be felt and touched, so they are tangible personalty property.". If it is, the donors deduction is limited to the lesser of market value and cost basis except in the unlikely instance that the gift would be for related use. Rul. Period." Dear Liza: I collect estate jewelry, and ancient and antique coins. Typically, individual retirement accounts (IRAs), which are tax-advantaged, can be used to hold tangible assets, such as gold and silver coins. Tangible personal property - that is, property (other than land or buildings) that you can see or touch - is a special asset class in many estates. Aaah, maybe the IRS thinks *this* type of "personalty" is different than *other* types of "personalty" so they apply a special rule to it. b) FMV is higher than basis Of course, you said, "bull," which just goes to show you didn't see the link between OP's coins and 408(m)and you didn't fully understand the true nature of OP's coins. The copyright for the song, though, is considered . With Examples. Alcohol The transfer of valuable wine collections or other alcohol is governed by state law and may require a license. But I don't think that it's all that relevant in the donation context. Just an observation. International trade would hardly work if they weren't. Purchase gold coins, such as South African Krugerrands, Canadian Maple Leafs, or U.S. American Eagles. An unreferenced PLR that was withdrawn and not published isnt any help. That's why I like the "akin to an appreciated stock" argument better. Mass.gov is a registered service mark of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Tangible personal property (TPP) comprises property that can be moved or touched, and commonly includes items such as business equipment, furniture, and automobiles. Your example keeps in line with the errant path that you continue to go down, applying "realization" characterizations and definitions to a deduction setting. Definition and How It Works, What Is a Fixed Asset in Accounting? I fail to see the logic in assuming the language "coins not held primarily as a medium of exchange" has relevance only to rare coins when that same language is widely used to apply to all precious metal coins. Taxpayer's should pay tax on the value of stuff they get. 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